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Full auto-transcript: Well, good day and welcome back to Reality Check. I'm your host, Ross Kulart. Now, one of I suspect the most intriguing stories or accounts in ufology, uology, if there's such a thing, is accounts of encounters with beings, entities, aliens, nonhuman intelligence. Periodically, I'll get sent videos of very blurry, faraway objects, and people say they saw an entity or a being, and it's very, very frustrating. But today I think we've got something quite extraordinary. A Green Beret, former Green Beret magic Mike Batista is joining us. Welcome, Mike. Good to have you here. >> Happy to be here. >> Mike's a former US Army Green Beret. Uh I think you got out in 2023. Is that Mike? Right, Mike? >> Was around 2021. >> 2021 was it? Right. Um, Mike's also been one of the psionics working very closely with Jake Barber's Skywatcher group doing the psionic summoning. And in the course of the last few years, Mike's been seeing and experiencing often in his private capacity outside of his work with Skyatcher some quite extraordinary phenomena. And we're going to show you a video today that frankly is extraordinary. And I challenge anyone to provide me with a prosaic explanation for what we're about to show you. I think potentially what Mike is about to show us today is momentous. Is it imagery of a nonhuman intelligence? Magic bike. Mike Batista, welcome. Welcome to reality. Good to have you here. >> Happy to be here. >> Before we get into this, Mike, can you just explain to me when did you first become aware of the fact that you had these alleged psionic sigh abilities? So, it was completely by accident. Um, you know, growing up, I had seen the, you know, UAP phenomena in the sky, you know, and didn't think much of it. I felt like I was the only one seeing things in the sky. And uh wasn't until you know I was ending my military career um I was on leave and I was out on Cape Cod, Massachusetts and you know I was outside. It was it was dark out and you know I was just looking up at the stars and I saw something going by and you know growing up I had watched ancient aliens, UFO hunters, all that stuff. you know, it's entertainment. You know, it's fun fun and you know, and I'm a military guy, so you know, when I see something going by in the sky, I'm like, "Oh, it's satellite, drone, plane." You know, pretty easy to identify. But this thing that was going by, it looked like what you would call an orb. And just from my basic knowledge of, you know, the phenomenon, it was very basic at the time. It's like I heard they communicate telepathically. So, I'm I'm just sitting out there like thinking to myself, hm, well, if that's an orb and this is, you know, potentially non-human intelligence, if you can hear me, stop. And this thing was just going and it just stopped. And I was sitting there, I was like, whoa, that's not normal. It's pretty late. Mike, you probably need to go to bed. You're hallucinating. So, um, I'm standing there. I was like, "Wow, that was crazy." So, I was like, "Okay, so if this is we're doing this and this is real, I see you and you see me. shine the brightest white light that you can and this thing just started glowing like a little mini sun like it's like >> so that's called a that's called a pulse I understand in the palance that's called a pulse up >> it it it kind of flashes at you >> yep it did and it did it instantaneously too which was which I thought was interesting at the time you >> shine your your light again for me please there you are thank you one more time Thank you. >> So, Mike, that's where you're saying you you actually invite a UAP to shine and it and it flashes at you and you say, "There you are." Can you talk to me what happened when that happened? >> So, that wasn't the first occurrence that you brought up earlier. That was uh maybe a couple months ago and it was uh you know I was just looking up at the sky not particularly you know trying to communicate with anything but it seems like the phenomena just kind of pop in sometimes to say hello and uh after the amount of experience I have now it's pretty easy to spot them out and as it was going by I was like you know flash for me and then it would it would pulse and you know I sit there I think I said thank you and you know does it again and and before it just speeds away and Um that's what's interesting about the phenomenon like the the responsiveness um just from thinking about it you know there seems to be a connection there. >> Now one of the things I've got a healthy respect for I've met a lot of people in special forces commandos and the green berets of course is an elite unit in the US army. Um a lot of the guys that I've met over the years and women who who've worked in these areas they often talk about an intuition. they have a sign of a second sight, a sense that there's an imminent threat. Did that ever happen to you as a soldier? >> Yeah, I think when you know, especially when you're going through training and you're, you know, being indoctrinated to that type of lifestyle, you're constantly in that fight orflight mode. And I think that may actually enhance that that intuition, that gut feeling that, you know, danger might be around the corner. And I've always listened to those gut feelings and, you know, they haven't certain yet. Had you ever been uh aware of detecting UAPs, UFOs in your time in the military? Had you ever seen anything anomalous during your time in service? The only anomalous thing that I saw was um you know so the that first occasion that I told you about about a year later it went dormant for about a year after that you know pulse and uh you know I was asking it to go to different parts of the sky and it was doing it went dormant for a year completely strange and then it was March 15th 2021 was like the day my life changed and will never be the same um I was at home I was on the phone with a friend of mine I was in my backyard just looking up and I look up and there's this blue mist pretty high up in the sky but you know you know not that high up like like a satellite was a blue mist and there was this transparent cube in the mist which I snapped a picture of as well and that was that was the start of this journey. >> So just talk to that blue cube for a moment Mike and talk about it for me. Yeah. So, it was just hovering, you know, just stationary in the sky and it looked like the cube inside was it was transparent and it was kind of moving like this and and then it just kind of drifted and faded away. And, you know, I was on the phone. I was like I told I told him exactly what was happening and and then I didn't think much of it you know I just thought it was cool you know until the next day and then the next day and the next day where I was consistently being visited by this phenomenon daily since then and uh it was almost like they showed up they're like hey we're not leaving like we're here like you know the faster you get over the faster we can get back to business type thing. Exactly. >> So when you say that there was that level of communication, that level of messaging, were you actually hearing a voice in your head? How was it communicating with you? >> Well, that type of communication like had for me had to be built over time. It didn't just come, you know, the first time I saw one, you know, it's like the responsiveness and asking for validation for certain things. It's almost like they teach you the language to to communicate with them with. And you know, I'll like project the thought out like in um in an attempt to communicate and even even now like I'll I'll feel like I'll get a response back in in words and you know not particularly my voice but you know it's been it's been validated when I get these confirmations and even now still um I I struggle uh like is that is that my imagination? Am I am I just making it up or you know but when they show up when you know and they do what you're asking them to do and inviting them to do you know there's your validation for that. >> So when did the landing incident occur? >> Oh there were several of those. Uh the one they're revealing today that occurred in April of 2023. So talk me through how that came about. What was happening? Why did you Why do you think that this alleged landing of what I say this I say this with a laugh because it is just such confronting imagery what we're about to show the public. Um it it is extraordinary. How did this happen? Well, this is after a year and change of just being outside every night like uh interacting with the phenomenon and building that relationship, but still not understanding my purpose in this or why they're visiting me almost like loitering and not I want to say harassing, but they're like, "Hey, we're getting his attention by any means." So, and I'm sitting there thinking, you know, like why is this happening to me? Like, what do you want? You guys are showing up every day. We're doing this. Like, you come in close, but for what purpose? Like, if you're this hyper intelligent species, this non-human intelligence, you know, that's way far more advanced than us, then just land. I was like, do it. Like, are you too scared to land? I was almost antagonizing, you know, um the connection in my mind. And uh because I was frustrated, you know, I didn't know what why this was happening. And uh you know, I didn't think they were going to do it. And they call called my bluff apparently. >> So the so the Green Beret called their bluff and they called your bluff because they did. >> What happened? Talk talk me through what happened. >> Yeah. So, I'm uh I'm looking at the sky and very clear night and after expressing this frustration, I see something very high up in the sky like something you'd see like a satellite or something, but it was blue and it was going by overhead and it ejected something out of the back of it and it had its own like light source. Almost looked like a shooting star got ejected out of the bottom of an orb. Mike, at this stage, you're holding your phone up, a cell phone, and you're filming what you're seeing, correct? >> Yeah, I believe that was shot on a a Galaxy. >> Okay. What did they say to you about your dog? Tell me that story. >> So, um, again, I was very, it was like infant stage of NHI communication. And you know, I asked him to land and then I instantly got this thought response back in my brain saying, "We'll land, but only if you put your dog away in the crate." And I was like, "Oh, that's a strange request." Cuz I usually have my dog has seen more aliens than anybody. Like, yeah, he's always with me. And uh you know, but he's Belgian Shepherd uh Belgian Malaw, Dutch Shepherd mix. And you know, he's >> Oh, they're a very big fierce dog. They're used by a lot of people in special forces, but they're a terrifying animal, aren't they? They're a very fierce. >> Absolutely. >> So I was like, "All right, sorry, Duke. You know, we're going to have to sit this one out, you know." So I brought him back outside and then and then that's when something ejected out of the bottom. And then you could see it slowly, you know, coming down until it it just started to get closer and closer. But then, you know, once it got in proximity of me within 100 ft as it was closing in, it it did something to me that uh that affected, you know, affected me physiologically in a way that almost made me docile or compliant. Um, which I thought was strange. Almost like a not a dreamlike state or a trance, but like it was way too casual for me at the time to be seeing that happen. >> Well, you're you're about to have a close encounters of the fifth kind. You're about to meet allegedly something nonhuman. I I would be pretty excited and and possibly a little bit scared. I can hear your respiration on the video. You're breathing far more quickly than normal, I think. Right. Right. And uh so when it was coming down and and it finally hits the ground, I'm standing there and I'm looking at it. I'm like, "What is that?" I I didn't have a frame of reference, you know, cuz I hadn't seen something like that yet. So, uh I'm staring it down and it's staring me down. And then there's also a chicken nearby and we're all staring each other down. And uh it almost looked as surprised to see me as I was it to to it. So >> now, Mike, in that freeze and zoom, you see it looks like some kind of translucent white blue face, but it's not a human face. It's two black dots for eyes that looks like a sort of a dot for the mouth, and it's a long overlooed head. >> Is it on the ground or or still in the air at this point? I can't see the video. Um, I think it's still in the air at this point. It seems to be metamorphosizing out of nothing. >> Right. So, as it was coming down, it looked like ethereal, like uh, if they're interdimensional, maybe it was, you know, still materializing in the third dimension. Um, and as it got closer, I remember it like it started morphing like this and and pulled one of these and it was shapeshifting into all these different like, you know, things. I don't know what they were. You know, you have to take a closer look at it until it it it turned into something that you would see uh on a petroglyph, right? Um, >> can I can I I want to I want to stop you there for a moment. It looks like almost like it's got wings. You see the head and then you see bluey white protuberances out to each side. >> It It came down as like a It looked like a cube with something sticking out the top and then it started morphing in to certain things. Then it turned into something you'd see on a petroglyph. And then after that I saw a humanoid looking form of it and he was like wearing a skintight metallic purple suit, greenish grayish bluish skin, you know. It was night time in the camera. And then after that, that's when it appeared as what you're talking about. And in the video, like when I was seeing it in person for the first time, I was like, "Oh, that kind of looked like an angel to me." Cuz it kind of had like the wings like this and like a light emanating at the top, like a halo. But as it got closer, it it wasn't that, you know, stereotypical, you know, image of an angel you get, you know, when you think of the Bible. It was it was a solid craft that was lit up in that way. >> At this point, is whatever the object is, entity, object, whatever you want to call it, is it telepathically communicating with you? So at this point I was in that that docile mind frame and and I I don't think that it was I think it was induced almost because like once once it actually hit the ground and I saw how big it was it was no bigger than 3 and 1/2 ft and it probably didn't want me to come closer like like Ross if something landed right here next to me now I'd probably be more inclined to walk up to it um and and and see what that's about. But that that wasn't a that wasn't a thing. And uh the fact that I was even able to reach for my phone, I was fighting and and uh some of those shots are very shaky. I actually had reached for both phones and I was trying to see which one looked better, but it wasn't it was uh it was just so surreal that um it's it's hard to describe and replicate unless you know you're in that that position. But what what certainly what I'm seeing and I think what you say you saw you see some kind of what looks like a being. Um it's got an overloid head, small eyes, a mouth. What would it be? >> And it had like Do you think it would be fair to say that it looks like an insect? Well, >> like a like a praying mantis. >> I saw a lot of things that night. You know that the photo I think you're talking about uh if you see the purple if that's the one that to me looked like a gray cuz it was so small. But as the experience progressed, it started to I I saw more than one entity that night, you know, and uh I I did see something that looked like an insect for sure, like a praying menace. I'm watching this on real time and you need to go frame by frame, but what you can see is it kind of moves between looking like an insect, like with that overlord football-shaped head, and then it's like the classic gray head, like the Whitley Streber Communion book with the round bulbous head. Um, and you can see why it looks like an angel because you see what looked like wings coming out from the side of it. It's quite extraordinary. Yeah, it's um you know that was something that you know took time to actually cope with after the fact you know like what what what just happened to me. Um >> are you scared? Are you scared at this point Mike? Is there any apprehension in you at this time? >> No, there was none. It was it was strangely casual. Um it was it was too calm. It was very familiar though. Um, very familiar feeling. >> Do you think you'd had this experience before but forgotten about it? >> No, that's unforgettable. >> No, but but when you say it was familiar, what do you mean? just like you know even like say if you're in a room and someone you don't know walks in like you know it's not a familiar feeling like there's that that vibe there you know that something you feel like when it was coming down it was such a spectacle and I knew that was for me like I don't think it was just saying hello cuz it was in the neighborhood like it came down for me and it was you know it was a it was a special experience but again like um it wasn't like a paralysis feeling it wasn't fear it was it there was excitement too. But it was like at first it was just that initial that shock factor. I was like, "What is that?" You know, what is it? >> Now, I I I just want to explain to our audience, you had been in Utah shortly before you did the processing on this video. I mean, obviously, this video was recorded in 2023, but you've been work you've been working with um a lovely fellow, a fellow Viking, Carl Andreas. Cal Crusher on YouTube. Recommend his shows by the way. He's done a lot of work on indigenous um uh pictoglyphs. Now, what's fascinating to me, tell me the story about the pictoglyph that you saw of you see a shape that is that is whatever this creature has morphed into. And it is uncanny because it looks like the pictoliff that you've sent me a a picture of that you and Cal Crusher had seen only a few weeks ago. >> Mhm. Yeah. Um during that experience like one thought I did have was it's turning into all these things like okay if I'm just you know compared to something that's hyper intelligent I'm a dumb human. Hopefully it's showing me something in a specific sequence so I can understand. And one of the things it turned into was was something you you'd see on the petetroglyphs all over the world. And uh it's, you know, they're very rigid bodies. They come in like this. And it was holding a shield and like it looked like something else in its hand too. But you see them all over the place. But the petetroglyphs we visited in Utah, they had spirals in like a spiral. And Carl was telling me that, you know, different directions. The spirals mean one thing or the other like going forward in time or back. And when it created that image of that you would see it's almost like obviously they saw that too and took enough time to carve into rock it something else came out of it like it opened up a portal you know to be like in the third dimension it was physical after that it wasn't like um like a plasma or or still manifesting. It was physical after that. >> So so forgive me it's a petroglyph isn't it? That's the correct terminology. >> Sure. Yes. >> Yeah. Sorry, I I made the mistake earlier. It was my mistake. So the is the correct term petetroglyph to describe this rock art? >> Yes. >> Yes. Okay. So in that petetroglyph, is he holding what looks like a shield? >> Mhm. Yeah. Um and it's can be interpreted different ways depending on who's making those petetroglyphs, but they're all consistent. They're all holding something and they usually have a spiral on it. I didn't see it this spiral in the in the footage that I have. name. You know, I'm not a master editor either, but um it seems to be connected to a portal or moving forward and back in time. So, this is really cool. So you're looking at a petetroglyph on a rock face in Utah just a few weeks ago with Carl Crusher, Carl Andreas and it appears in the 2023 imagery to have displayed something that is uncannily similar to that petroglyph. >> It's not uncannily similar. It's the same. It is the same thing. And when you saw when you saw a few weeks ago that petetroglyph, did anything anomalous happen while you were there with K? >> So during the day when we went to visit, uh not I don't I'm not sure the picture, but the one where I'm looking up at it, nothing happened at that moment, but we went out to the Anastasia Trail, which has more uh petrios like that. And as soon as we got there, it's like they opened up the welcoming mat. We had this giant white orb that just like welcomed us. It just appeared as soon as we got there and you know we got in a video and you see it just like just going up out into space and like oh wow that's cool. We didn't even have to hike up that far. All right, let's go home. No, so we we kept going and you know he showed me all these these uh these spots that you know he frequents and they're special to him and um he showed me this place that he calls the the shaman seat and there's a a whole series of petetroglyphs there. Um the shaman seat's like a like carved out rock where like a shaman would do his initiations and sit there and you're looking at these rocks and they're telling a story of the like I guess it's uh you know the birth of the universe and life and creation but it's these beings that are like walking through one portal and the rocks up here and it's coming out of another portal down here and it's it's the same stuff that we're seeing in the video. Now, what really blows me away here is the implication that the entity was reminding you potentially when you filmed that video in 2023. Was the Do you think there's a connection between the video that you filmed in 2023, which we've just shown here, of what looks like a a humanoid figure holding what might be some kind of shield or some kind of object? Do you think it was trying to flag to you when you were looking at the petetroglyphs just a few weeks ago that that's the same thing? >> Well, since I saw that, you know, during the experience, I've been chasing that and, you know, that led me looking for petetroglyphs. Um, and it wasn't until I met up with Carl and he showed me the ones out in Utah that are really like those are the ones, you know, like I've seen similar ones because they always have the arms and they're like this and but these ones were so spot-on and they had the shield and and I I I knew that they were trying to tell me something and that kind of led me on that that journey, you know. Um, and it's, you know, it sounds like we're unlocking mysteries through through this this ancient art. So, it gets weirder, guys. Stick with me here. I mean, I know we're talking here about Magic Mike communicating with a nonhuman intelligence that's actually pointing out petetroglyphs to him in Utah to remind him of what he'd seen in 2023. But it gets even weirder. That just remind you that it kind of had like a Eureka moment at that time. Like it wasn't until I visited those like exact ones that looked the most similar and sat in that shaman seat that like you know days later I'm going through old footage that I've I've looked over you know overlooked excuse me until we kind of like really did a deep dive on this one and then what the timing is impeccable for this. So just uh the discovery to where we are now talking to you >> Mike. What you see is it's a white platform of some kind and there is what looks like a squatting humanoid figure. Uh looks like they've got their knees in a squat and their back is curved and it's the classic large overlaid head and it's side profile looking out from left to right. Um, did you see that with your own eyes at the time? Were you actually were you actually perceiving this as a as an entity sitting on some kind of a platform as you're filming this? >> So, the entity was sitting there and the thing that caught my attention immediately was there was something poking its head out from behind it looking at me that was smaller than that that uh the grayish whitish thing you're talking about. >> Oh, yeah. That you you see it. It's literally zoom in. Yeah. 3 minutes 55. Yeah. So, it's peeking around that person. >> There was there was multiple beings there that night and and some of them like there were there was just changing. There's so much change. Like you were it's like looking into a portal. Like you'd have this one being looking a certain way and then like it would just completely change in like it would almost look like it the whole like it would be on a craft that it changed like everything was just so strange. It was morphing. >> Okay. So, I promise you guys it gets even stranger. Now, this is where I gasped. As you probably know, Mike, I went to Egypt with friends last year and I saw a lot of carved granite Egyptian statues. And the image we're looking at now is it looks uncannily. I call it the Egyptian. It It's uncanny. It's a a a bluey purpley white object entity. Um there appears to be an arm extended its right arm. It's looking towards the camera. It seems to be sitting on a platform of some kind. Can you talk me through what you're seeing at the time? >> Um it's hard with the video not in front of me. So you said the arms extended is sending out and touching something. So, it looked like there was it's it's hard to say because it to me it looked like a skull. It looked like it was holding a skull out in his hand, you know, and that reminds me like because the petetroglyphs out in Utah we just saw those same ones were holding heads like they're call the head hunters. And I was like, well, maybe it's like an interface and it's like touching something, you know, like a like we would. But um it seems like it was a being and then it grabbed onto something. But then it later on in the video it almost looks like that center piece stays consistent and it's like almost like a portal and things are coming in and out of it. >> So I'm just stepping forward very quickly cuz there isn't just a most breathtaking moment. It It's uncanny, Mike. It's the moment where I think irrefutably there is an image of what looks like a humanoid head, but it's not human. It's alien. It's got a long neck, a football overlooid head, dots for eyes, black dots for eyes, a black dot for a mouth. Talk me through what did you see this at the time? >> Is that the one? It looks like he's leaning up against something. No, it's it's it's literally all you're seeing is a translucent white blue object showing a looks like a mantis being or a I don't know what it is, but essentially >> and those things were only like it happened so quick and I saw so many different beings like the man the mantis being was one like I saw some look like a gray and then actually if you look above the white ethereal guy crouching. There's like this bluish almost looks like a mask or a face that's been like there was like another taller entity that was, you know, behind like there was so much going on there. And you can see in the video like every like 10 to 15 uh frames it changes into a new being in a whole new like setting in and environment in that little area. >> Yeah. It's it's almost like it was showing you everybody there saying, "Hi, this is me, but here's another guy." uh it at I mean within a second there are multiple entities but there's a kind of a bluey green humanoid creature that seems to be looking down and it's tilting its head slightly and it's indubitably looks like the top part of a torso that's not human >> and it's a overloid football head. It's extraordinary. >> Yep. And uh and there's actually a frame where it it looks like it has, you know, the typical mantis arms as well. And in one of the you can see that's right before it it extends its hand out. Looks like it grabs onto like a skull. Like you can see uh you know looks like the mantis arms and uh it was just it it felt like I was looking into like a portal, you know, like it was it was everything at once. And it was uh it was definitely one of the most profound experiences I've ever had in my entire life. And uh >> h how far away is this showing itself to you, Mike? >> It was no more than 50 ft away. >> 50 ft. And >> it was very small. >> I know a lot of people are going to ask me this. All the dog lovers are going to ask me this. Your dog's presumably chained up somewhere. Is your dog reacting to what's happening? >> No. So, I was my I was out um like about 200 yards from where he was, 150 yards, 200 yards. And he was in his crate. You know, he's got, you know, one of those impact crates, the really nice ones. You know, he's real comfortable in there. But, um yeah, no, I didn't I didn't hear any barking or anything like that, but um I did get that message. You know, lock up your dog or we're not we're not coming down there. >> I love the idea that a highly advanced alien species is terrified of Belgian melanin cuz I am as well. >> I mean, who is it? Who is it? >> Um, so I'm just scrolling through it. It's gone from a blue mist at times. It looks like it was almost recalibrating itself. It goes to a blue mist and then it goes back into what looks like an alien being or some kind of humanoid being. And and there are these let's there's no other word for it. There are these kind of wings coming out. I mean, you can see why people might describe them as angels. It looks like an angel. >> You see, how big was this object when you were seeing it, Mike? >> It was big enough to fit a little 3T 3 and 1 half tall thing in there. It wasn't very big at all. And you can see in the video where the tree line is, too. And those trees are no bigger than 40 ft. >> I I know you you had an interesting unit of measurement to figure out the height. Tell me how you figured out how high the being was. You know, when I describe it, you know, and I'm trying to be trying to be funny, I I tell them I tell people that uh whatever being I encountered at that time was about three three and a half chickens high, you know, is a good reference point >> cuz you've got chickens walking around your backyard. Basically, >> those are actually my neighbors. And uh they sometimes they get in my yard, but I will say this, if you ever if you ever hear uh or no, if you ever see a video of a UAP and you hear chickens going off in the background, that's like my watermark. It's probably my video because they they they always go off. I mean, just talk again for me, Mike, because we're I think this is a really interesting point. You're How long ago did you see these petetroglyphs with cow? >> Like last week, about a week ago. And I was I was just shocked when he brought me up. There's there's this one particular one that he brought me to and I just stood there and I was like, "Okay, like now it makes sense. This is what they were trying to show me and this is what people however many thousands of years ago were trying to show us." You know, it's not easy to carve into rock, you know. So, whatever they saw, you know, they meant business because if they can do perfect spirals, they they made that figure and that shape for a specific reason. It's not just because it was easy. >> But the implications of this, Mike, are that whatever this phenomenon is, it's been around as long as the Native American peoples were drawing petroglyphs on the walls of rocks in Utah. We're talking thousands of years, aren't we? >> Well, I think part of the story that they're trying to portray in these petetroglyphs are that these beings, they don't they don't see and react to time like we do or the perception of time that we have. Like they it's not linear to them. You know what I mean? So, they've probably always been here. Uh, and uh, you know, it's uh, it's it's >> at 10:33 on the video, there is a very good zoom that Carl's done for you of what I call the Egyptian figure. And irrefutably, it's a humanoid. Uh, it's some kind of humanoid shaped entity. It appears to be sitting. Is it Is it What did you see it as, Mike? Just talk me through that image. It's a It's a freeze frame of a purpley blue white. >> Okay. Yeah. So, that was when it was it was coming down and uh like it was right after it turned into that petetro petroglyph shaped uh figure. That's when it materialized as something that looked humanoid like in the 3D that you could touch. And uh he was wearing a a skintight purple metallic suit. He had like some sort of controller in his hand and at the time like whatever craft that looked like the angel in the beginning like it opened up. So now it's like almost he's on a like the hoverboard from like the Green Goblin and uh there's all these orbs behind him and it was he he you know he was he was showing off. >> Okay. So I think we've milked that video for as much as we can for the moment. We're going to change videos now and we're going to go to um another one that is called the initiation. And I'm just going to open that. So So Ross, that first minute is is the raw footage. And I was still in that that that uh trans almost like dream state and I'm holding my phone and I'm trying to keep it still and I'm fighting it so it comes up in the corner of the image. And then we did the the raw image first and then we zoomed in and stabilized it and and all that. >> No, I've sp I've spoken to Carl for anybody who's going to I'm sure there will be debunkers and skeptics who say that Carl and you have done something to the vision, >> but essentially all you've done is lift the brightness, lift the contrast and uh zoom. There's no other changes that have been made to this image. And I invite all the debunkers and skeptics and and and I'm not here to try to prove anything to anybody. Like I encourage independent research. Uh take a look for yourself. But yeah, we we isolated that corner piece of the raw footage and we manually stabilized it cuz I'm over here like this. And and then we just adjusted the hues a little bit, the exposure, brightness, that kind of stuff. And it it made the figures pop and uh you're able to really see. But it wasn't until we slowed down the frames even more that like a whole another world dawned upon us that it was just shocking. >> Okay. So, at around about 4 minutes 45 on that video, I'm just going to roll that and get you to talk me through it. What I'm seeing is a kind of a blurry greeny blue object. I presume that's some kind of platform that they were sitting on. And you see what looks like two heads. Can you talk me through what we're seeing? >> Right. So it it looked like if the shape of the craft maybe was shaped like an egg, for example, like it opened up like this and there was two beings there. There was one there's one in the middle and then another one in the they were moving around a little bit. Um and that's when you know you could see like the mantis arms at some point reaching out for the skull. Sorry, I mistake uh earlier in the we were talking about the first video. I mix it up with the second video. So, um but yeah, this is where he reaches his arm out and it looks like he's holding the skull. Um >> okay, let me go to that. Let let me go to that very quickly so that we can talk through it. Um I need to guide the editor. I mean, ultimately all the way through this it looks like it's phase shifting. What do you think is going on? Do you think these creatures are coming interdimensionally? I mean, I I'm not I'm not aware of what you're being told telepathically, but are you being given any clues as to what's happening here as to where they're coming from? Because it looks to me like they're sort of I think it's telling me a story like, you know, it's showing it was trying to show me so much at once almost like, you know, it showed me in the last video things in a specific order which led me down this path that, you know, to find, you know, those carved in stone. I think it's similar here. And you know, I was up till 4 am dealing with that video. I was texting you at 3:00 am that video. And you know it like it would change into other entities like would stay like excuse me like those two figures would stay there like in the same relative area, but they would change into different beings. There's actually one that it changes into that looks like it's wearing like one of the Egyptian headdresses. And I can't even count the number of beings that I thought I saw in just in that video alone. Like there would be like after every, you know, 10 15 frames if you slow it down, it changes to a new being and then like a whole new landscape or or craft around it. Like it, you know, you have to you see for yourself, viewers. It's uh it's it's hard to describe um you know, the feeling you get when you see it up close. You know, it's just >> And so you're still in this slightly soporific state, whatever it's done to you. You're you're you're being allowed to film, but it's obviously calmed you in some way. Is that correct? >> Oh, yeah. I mean, I've mellowed out in my years. It used to be a little little wild one. In regards to this stuff, um, from the beginning it I've always got the message that they wanted to be filmed and they were almost looking at the time for maybe prospects that were maybe good representatives or maybe an ambassador role that you can they were trying to build rapport with and and and vet to allow themselves to get closer to me and and allow me to get the footage. Um because it's this I would always every time I go out and and do one of these star parties we call them or contact events we always kind of try to end the night with like a a grand finale you know and they usually just put on like this big aerial show goodbye and and I think that you know I think every human has the innate ability to to communicate with you know these beings. Um, and I don't think I'm maybe even the best guy for the job. Maybe I was the right guy for the job because, you know, I it just right place, right time, and I took the interest and I, you know, I spent almost a year straight, you know, under the stars filming these things when it first started happening. So, there's a moment on the uh initiation video, and it looks like the entity, whatever it is, it's it's sitting in some kind of platform, but there's a kind of a glowing rectangular screen tilted at an angle, and it appears to be peeking from around that screen. What do you think that is? Can you talk me through what we're looking at? >> Right. So, like earlier in the video, we, you know, I mentioned it looked like that mantis was grabbing something by the head, right? And but that figure in the middle stayed consistent throughout the video and it it almost like it was a portal and things were poking his head in and out of it, you know, and like the poking around it and it always stayed like in the middle and no matter how many times the craft or environment changed or shifted, shape-shifted, like that middle piece would would always like be glowing or like you know like an interface or some sort of portal like and Uh, you know, they're always you're always seeing things peeking out from behind it. >> Yeah. I mean, uh, it's interesting. I was trying to find in the quick run through on the video, I was trying to find the moment when the mantis holds up the head. >> You can see he has three fingers. Um, and he's he's clearly grasping something and the >> Okay. So, it's got it's got you doing an audio through it, Mike. So, I'm just going to play that through its entirety and then I'll get you to talk through it afterwards. >> Mantis. This is my footage. Like the head hunter