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Full auto-transcript: News Nation chief correspondent Brian Anton has been pouring through these documents. Brian, hello. What videos caught your attention? >> Yeah, I've been going through these videos and the new documents since 8:00 a.m. this morning, henna, when they all uh were first released, and there's some really interesting ones. 64 total. Second big batch that's been released. President Trump obviously uh ordered that these videos be released. Let me show you this first one. Um this is video here from a US military sensor in Syria. This one is getting a lot of attention. Uh the video, I think, we're going to play it here in a second. The video is from 2021. Uh and you can see what looks like a bright sphere. There it is. Sort of like a bright sphere looking orb traveling over the surface. And if you wait a couple of seconds here, Hannah, and watch it closely, it picks up speed and then it literally just zooms off. There it was right there at the end. That is the part uh that experts are especially perplexed by because our technology uh we are told just couldn't do that where at the end there it literally just zooms off the screen. All right, next video. This one is interesting, Hannah. A formation of UFOs uh over the Persian Gulf. You see right there again captured by a military sensor. Uh there are what appear to be three dots you can see traveling together. Um, sometimes they kind of space apart a little more and then they get closer together. Uh, and this video was uploaded to a classified network in October of 2019. Again, experts do not seem to know what this is. Another video here. We move on to the next one. This one is from October of 2020. Look at that. See that little black dot? We circled it. Traveling across the city. We don't know exactly where this is. Military isn't telling us. Uh but again captured by a military sensor. They don't know what it is and it just moves very slowly there uh across the screen again from October 2020. It goes from the uh the city there and then it goes out over to the mountains. I wish we knew the location. Uh there's a lot they left out when they gave descriptions for these videos. Um we don't know if they're being vague uh on purpose, but this one was interesting. Henna, you see just continues to move over the mountains there. Some of these videos, we obviously clipped them down for you, uh, but some of them go on 10, 13 minutes where they literally track these objects, um, and it just goes on and on and on and then eventually the object leaves the screen. Also, in the release today, there was a recording of an astronaut, astronaut Scott Carpenter from 1962. Uh, this radio recording, Henna, when he was up in space on the radio, this recording has never been released before where there's no video, but he described seeing something very strange. um something that he said looked like snowflakes and again that was unexplained. Hannah, >> I mean we the mystery still remains but always fun to watch and got to the bottom of this. Brian Anton, thank you. My next guest directed and produced the explosive film The Age of Disclosure. It features interviews with over 30 government insiders and alleges an 80year global coverup concealing the existence of intelligent alien life and of course technology. Dan Farah joining me live now. Dan, welcome to the show. We've been excited to talk to you all day. Your film argues we're entering a new era of disclosure, transparency, after today's release. Do you believe this is the transparency the UFO community has been looking for this whole time? >> Yeah, look, I think we're living through a major turning point in human history, and I couldn't be prouder of the role the film is playing in it. Um, you know, the age disclosure uh drove a national conversation that led to our government taking this historic unprecedented disclosure um movement and moving it forward. >> Sorry. >> Well, there's a couple of videos that are getting a lot of buzz tonight. I talked about a few. Brian Enson brought up a few as well. One video was filmed by an infrared sensor. It was on a military platform. It happened near Syria in 2021. It shows an object that appears to just instantaneously accelerate, going from a dead stop to extreme speed in a fraction of a second. I believe that's the video. Yeah, that is it. What do you make of what we're seeing, Dan? >> Look, I think a lot of the videos released today and in the first uh trunch of evidence released on May 8th, they they show UAP performing in ways that no known aircraft can. These things are moving faster than our fastest fighter jets. Um, they're displaying the ability to do instantaneous acceleration. Um, simply put, there is no human-made technology that can do that. >> Let's move on to another video that appears to show the moment a fighter jet shot down a UFO over Lake Hiron. This was in 2023. This incident came after a Chinese spy balloon was spotted over the US. We're looking at that video now. Huh. and then you kind of just see it implode. What do you make of this? >> Yeah, look, it's just it's it's it's more of the same. I think I think what we're what we're seeing now is the evidence that can that the government can safely declassify and share with the public. But, you know, it's important to remember um this this barely scratches the surface. There is a lot of evidence that still exists um within various federal agencies, uh various private defense contractors and branches of the military that is still heavily classified. Um right now what's happening is the White House is uh driving forward an effort to get that evidence out of those federal agencies and out of the various branches of the military uh so that they can start declassifying more. Um but what we're seeing now barely scratches the surface. There's a there's a lot of evidence that shows UAP that are clearly not made by humans doing things that humans do not currently have the ability to do. >> Your documentary alleges an 80-year global cover up concealing the existence of alien life and of course its technology. The Pentagon has not drawn any conclusions as to whether these videos indicate nonhuman life. But what do you think? Do you think these are actual alien videos that have been released that we're watching? Look, all my sources inside of government, the military, and the intelligence community um very clearly have ruled out UAP being made by humans. There's there's no reason to believe this is humanmade technology. Um certainly if one of our adversaries, a foreign nation, had leapfrogged us by 100 years technologically and made these things, that's the biggest story in the history of the world uh on its own. Um, if somebody within the US has leaprogged the rest of humanity by 100 years and figured out how to crack this technology and the US government is unaware of it, that also is the biggest story in the history of the world. And if it turns out um definitively all of this is uh, you know, controlled by non-human intelligent life, that's the biggest story in the history of the world. Anyway you cut it, what's unfolding, you know, in real time before our eyes is the biggest story in the history of humanity. >> Yeah. And many many people out there will agree with you, including me, really. So, there will be a third drop in the near future. What other files are you hoping to see? >> My understanding is that this is going to be a rolling disclosure process and there's likely going to be more declassified evidence every few weeks, if not every month. Um, what's what's actually unfolding right now is the White House is trying to get this evidence out of the various federal agencies and the branches of the military and defense contractors. And as they get access to evidence, they can then evaluate it and decide what can be declassified and what still needs to remain classified. But there's certainly a battle waging behind the scenes. A lot of these intelligence agencies, you know, keep in mind they're intelligence agencies. Their stated purpose is secrecy, right? They're in the business of secrets. And so they're not easily giving up uh this evidence and these secrets they hold. So, there's this there's this tugof-war happening behind the scenes where the president's cabinet is trying to wrestle this evidence out so that they can start sharing stuff with the public and it's going to be a rolling process. It's going to be a it's going to, you know, that's why I called the film, my documentary, the age of disclosure, not the moment of disclosure, right? Cuz it's not a singular moment. It's a process that's going to unfold and it's going to have milestones and hurdles. Um, and it's going to play out uh most likely over the course of this entire year. uh but you know one day we'll look back at this relatively small period of time and you know I think we'll view it as the age of disclosure the period in time where all of this extremely significant information that's been covered up for decades uh becomes known to the public. >> All right, Dan Farah, thank you so much. His film, The Age of Disclosure is available for purchase or rent on Prime Video. Former Pentagon UFO whistleblower, my brother from another, Lou Alzando, NewsNation special correspondent, investigative reporter, and Ross Coldart. Too good looking to be related to me, the founder and director of the Harvard and Smithsonian Center for Astrophysics, Galileo Project. Too smart to be related to me. Mr. Avi Lobe, it is good to have you each and all. And I am celebratory in my introduction because this is a day to celebrate. I was very n about the last stuff. This is a step in the right direction. Am I right, Mr. Coldart? Good day, Chris. I think you're absolutely right. I think there's reasons for good optimism out of what's been released today. Some of the videos are prosaically explainable. There's one from 2023, which is the balloon over Lake Hiron. And frankly, we don't know why that's never been released before. it should have been because there's nothing in it that should in any way have been redacted. Uh obviously we need to protect the means and methods by which we get this kind of imagery and I can understand that. But there's no reason at all why probably all of these videos, all of these records couldn't have been released before. And as you say, some of them are very dramatic. But still, I don't think what it's addressing is the bear in the room. the president, the White House, the administration, they need to address the singular primary allegation that there's been a cover up at the highest levels in the Pentagon of a covert retrieval and reverse engineering program and that's not being addressed by any of the >> you are correct, but I'm cutting you off because that is our next block. We're going to talk about what is it, you know, what we can't be distracted from by what they have just given us. Uh Lou, is it fair to say that while some of these things uh you know as as Ross is suggesting uh using the word prosaically that you can explain some of these things but I don't think you can explain all of them. Certainly I can >> actually in fact the vast majority cannot be explained to be honest with you and a lot of these videos are very similar. >> Lou like you see these you see the videos Lou that we're showing right now while you're talking >> I I yeah I can I can see them. I can I'm happy to to talk to you. We're looking at >> object. Tell me what we're seeing and how weird it is what they're doing. >> Yeah, the these are videos that that are very similar, eerily similar to the videos we had at the Pentagon when I was in ATIP in the Pentagon's UFO program. And you're seeing here uh objects that are demonstrating in some cases one of the five observables, which is instantaneous acceleration, hypersonic velocity, uh anti-gravity, and even perhaps transmedium travel. And I think actually I think a lot of these videos are are fantastic uh giving them out to to the public, the American public to look at and see for themselves. And this is by the way just the beginning, Chris. Um you know, if I can just draw your attention for one second, one of the very first reports that came out on this second trunch, if you will, release of videos, uh was a report by the DNI itself where an well, you just saw it there, instantaneous acceleration. Yeah. uh where a uh a senior intelligence officer assigned to the DNI directly went out on a helicopter on a on a secret mission uh to try to uh to to uncover a UAP uh incident that had occurred over a censored military installation and the individual himself witnessed these glowing orbs up to some point 10 ft away from the helicopter. Uh it's it's unbelievable. Um it's I think it's fantastic that that the administration is uh is delivering on this promise. Um I think you have um in this second trunch a treasure trove of data. So Obby uh there are also some color videos if we could put those up now. Uh that you're playing right now. That's in color. All right. I'll take it. Maybe it's just my monitor. Uh but Avi uh what is the significance of these uh that are newer and more modern technology and what they show? What does that confirm and what is it raises a new question? >> Well, obviously right now we have sensors that are far better than we had 50 years ago and um the best ones are actually on satellites and they have special resolution of a few centimeters. we don't see that data and therefore I believe that it would be far more useful for to have a a a group of people a board that looks also at the classified data because the the classified sensors we have right now uh should be able to have high resolution images of those UAP and also track their motion relative to features on the ground you know either these are human-made objects or nonhumanade objects Either way the matter is of great importance for national security or for basic science. Now the point is that I believe that what we are seeing in many of the cases are uh failures of the defense system of the US because there are objects over the sky that we we don't know about. Some of them are Chinese spy balloons as as we noticed in 2023. But uh there are adversarial nations flying things and at the very least let's figure those things out, you know, because the Pentagon and the intelligence agencies cannot. Apparently they're not doing their job >> right. Let me show one more thing and then I want to take a break and then I want to talk about what you guys are hinting at which is wait until you see fill in the blank. Wait until you learn fill in the blank. Uh so coming out of the water or close to the water uh Lou just give me a quick take on uh from a uh from a military and intelligence perspective. Why are these specifically important to you? >> Great question Chris. Uh first of all we call that transmedium travel. We have technologies right now. For example, a sea plane that is technically transmedium. It can fly and it can float. Let's face it, a sea plane is neither really a good boat or a good airplane because it's a design compromise. So you you're compromising performance and other characteristics. Well, we are seeing objects that can apparently go in multiple mediums, whether it's in low Earth orbit, in our atmosphere, and even underwater without any of those performance compromises. meaning it can perform just as easily as it can underwater where the friction coefficient is astronomical, no pun intended, uh and be able to zip through the sky uh with ease. Apparently not even recognizing or realizing that that the water is there. And so anytime you can imagine from a military or national security perspective, if you have a technology that can operate both in air and in water and potentially even space, that is definitely a strategic advantage over your adversary. And this is why exactly why Aby's correct. We have to take this very seriously. >> Do you know how crazy that is as an idea, Ross? I mean, maybe it's just because I'm a I'm a fisherman. The idea that something can move from the air to the water and not really change speed is almost unbelievable. I mean, we have like a flying fish, okay, which has, you know, long fins that can glide and that is like amazing, right? And that alone allows us to survive. So, it in terms of what we're seeing and like this saucer one too is another one that really needs explanation. Um, what do you think the strength of seeing something like this is in terms of moving the needle that there's more to understand? >> I think it's very important. I think it's commendable that the the administration's doing this and frankly I think it's right. The president has said the public can now judge for themselves. What we need to do though is advance beyond this because there's a lot of data that's redacted in these files for good reason. I know we have to protect sources, means, and methods and that's that's a good reason. Frankly, the susp. >> Yeah. I I think the primary suspicion I have and I think Lou could probably add to this is why has the government concealed this for so long? I suspect a lot of it is because the P the Pentagon doesn't like admitting that there are superior technologies operating on this planet that are that are not ours and they don't appear to be foreign adversaries and we don't like admitting that we're not the apex predator anymore. >> That's right. And that's the problem because that is the most dangerous reason to not disclose it. uh because it is literally saying I have to protect myself from you and your accountability for what I'm supposed to be doing uh for you. All right, let's take a break and then we're going to come back and discuss these now very important questions that are raised by these not whether or not it's real or not. And I disagree with the president. It's not for us to judge. All right? The government should have, you know, information that they put out about what they know and don't. We shouldn't have to guess. We'll be back with this amazing group of mines and men right after this. >> I fire a pit down thruster. I get a shower of these little fireflies. I have some more of the white particles in view below the capsule. They appear to be traveling exactly my speed. There is one drifting off. Uh, it's going faster than I am. As a matter of fact, their motion is random. They look exactly like snowflakes to me. What was that? Well, that was just some crazy guy, some pilot. It was an astronaut. Okay. scientists that are the most capable among us aboard the Mercury missions in the early 1960s describing UFOs that they were seeing in space. You know why? Because they couldn't explain what it was and their scientists. All right. So, today was a great day for those of us who have been saying to you, it's not absurd that we think there's something to know. It's absurd that you accept that there isn't. And when you look at the videos today, you will see clearly there is more than any of us understand. Except for the people in the government who aren't giving us the rest of the information. You see what I mean? That's why what we got today is good, but it's not enough. That doesn't mean I don't appreciate what I got today. I do. But it doesn't mean that you gave me what I need because you didn't. Back with me, former Pentagon UFO whistleblower Lou Alzando, NewsNation special correspondent uh and investigative reporter Ross Colart, and the founder and director of the Harvard and Smithsonian Center for Astrophysics Galileo Project, Avi Lobe. Do you know why I say each of those words so slowly? Because the idea that Avi lobe is a dope to believe that there are open questions about superior technology, Harvard, Smithsonian, Galileo, astrophysics. Okay. When you look up half of those words, you'll realize can't be dumb. Understand? So Avi, what does a day like today mean in terms of what you hope comes if you got to wave the wand? Because now it's just possible. It's not just possible. We're in the world of probability now cuz things are coming out. We never had this before. We had no momentum, but now we do. What would you wave your wand and disclose for everybody's understanding? >> Well, um I feel like a kid in a candy store on a day like that in the sense that it's all about evidence. It's all about data, not storytelling. Too many people told us stories over the years. We want to see the actual data and of course the data from past reports is limited. You can't go back in time and collect better data. But right now we have much better instruments and we can understand things much better. So my hope is that this would lead to a research program where we can monitor the sky. In fact, I'm leading such a program, the Galilo project. But the government can fund it at a level that is far greater where we will collect a highquality, high resolution data and then figure out what these things are and if the government has materials, you know, I can bring it to the laboratory of the Galore project and within a matter of hours I can tell you if the material came from outside the solar system. These are things we can do. We have great instruments now. Instead of obsessing with history, we can actually figure things out. It's like a detective story. Now, with respect to what you said about the astronauts, I should caution that Scott Carpenter, who talked about these fireflies, you know, it looks like the actual reason for that, the phenomena was um simply ice particle or frost that has condensed from the spacecraft cooling system onto the exterior of the capsule. Nothing important there. Uh the same is true about these flashes of light that Buzz Ordin reported about. This could be just very energetic cosmic rays going through his eyeballs. You know the it's called chenco radiation blue light that you see flashes of light and you know patients that go through treatment radiogenic treatment they do see the same thing. So we have to distinguish you know there are things we can figure out but that's the whole point. We need a lot of data in order to do so. And my hope is that we will move forward not just backward in time and the government will support an effort to figure these things out because the at the very least are of great importance to national security. We have a mixed bag here of things that we could explain and things that you know could be the biggest discovery ever made by humanity. >> Uh Ross, what do you believe needs to be known? Okay, we know from whistleblowers that have appeared on NewsNation, Jake Barber, David Grush, Lou, Chris Melon, there's been a succession of people, insiders who have described a covert UAP program where the US government has allegedly retrieved nonhuman technology. Multiple people have said this now and the government has never directly addressed the claim. It's avoided it. And to a large extent, what we're seeing here with this commendable release is, I think, almost a distraction because the bear in the room is the central question. Is the government, is President Trump going to give us the full banana? Are we going to get the full story on what the government actually knows about retrieved non-human technology? I think that's the real story, and I'm sure Lou feels the same way. >> Well, I don't know about that. give us the whole banana line. I don't know that Lou was going to use that line, Ross. I'll tell you that right now. I don't think he was going to say that. Uh, but Lou, uh, when you look at the universe, pun intended, of what you know and suspect that I don't know and can't know from you, what would you want to come out >> as a category? Obviously, I don't want you to betray your confidence. >> No, no, of course. Of course. I I do I do still maintain a security clearance. So I have to be very careful. >> Correct. I think we need to look at what lengths the US government in the past has taken to suppress this information. We just had a whistleblower where video came out last week where this individual had admitted for the record to Congress that elements of the CIA were secretly recording out of the ODNI conversations between the ODNI dig uh the investigative body set up by Tulsi Gabbard and whistleblowers. Now, think about that for a second, Chris. Think about somebody in the government making a unilateral decision without a FISA warrant to collect information on US persons. Let that resonate for a minute. You had somebody from the CIA, a senior CIA official testify for the record under oath that that actually happened. People like myself and others who were illegally recorded to find out what are we going to say? M hence the slush fund. Lou, thank you very much. I appreciate your insight in this uh we need to know more and I the more that happens I think it's good on so many levels. Satisfies the scientist like Avi satisfies the investigative reporter like Ross. But for guys like you, there's validation of the work that you did. And for guys like me, it restores this much more universal, again, pun intended, um, respect for government and trusting an institution, which we need in America right now more than at any other point in my life. So, gentlemen, thank you for being part of this process. >> Well, we've seen more classified UFO files in the past two and a half weeks than we've seen in a lifetime. But the jury is still out as to whether those now public videos and documents prove we're not alone in the universe. It does prove, however, that the government has been documenting these unidentified objects over many decades and then hiding it from the American people. Some of the videos from the second batch of files were featured in the new documentary Sleeping Dog. The film follows UFO investigative journalist Jeremy Corbell as he pushes the government to reveal what it knows about UFOs. So, what files could be coming in out in batch number three expected at the end of next week? Journalist Jeremy Corbel joins me now. He's also co-host of the Weaponized podcast. Uh Jeremy, great to have you back. What do you make of the reaction so far to the big dump of documents and videos uh on Friday before Memorial Day weekend? People are probably just now looking at them. >> Yeah. Well, I want to be clear that nothing was given to us. In fact, these were provoked. What you're showing on your screen right now, we already put out 3 months ago, George Knapp and I did with all the numerology, all of the the data that you need to see. What you are seeing is an underhanded pitch. It's the floor, not the ceiling. Everything has been provoked. >> So, you were especially when you say provoked. Explain what you mean by that. Yeah, very simply, we gave the opportunity to our government to put out things that we've reported on. And we are seeing that and I'm going to give them that. >> And they did it. So, you put it out yourself. >> As journalists, we obtained and released. We've done many shows together. You know that we've obtained and released and everybody said, "Well, we don't know that they're real. Well, our government just put them out, so we know they're real. Now, are they giving us new stuff? The good stuff? The stuff that we want?" Well, look, you see in the movie Sleeping Dog on my laptop as I'm sorting through stuff, you see eight videos. They released seven in this second data dump that they did. So, they're listening obviously. So, where's the good stuff? >> So, one of the videos that you did release three months ago is the infamous uh sort of sudden acceleration video. It was taken in the year in 2021 was on the Syrian border, Syrian Jordanian border, I believe. And the UFO appears to show an ability to literally stop and start very quickly, essentially going from a dead stop to extreme speed in the fraction of a second, which would defy the laws of physics. You say it's the most consequential UFO video. Why? >> Yeah, I agree with that. I said it and I agree with that because never before has the world ever seen military filmed footage of instantaneous acceleration. That is one of the first five observables that your government said that pilots had been interacting with. You can see it with your own eyes. The data is right there. The government released a version of it without the data sets, but George and I reported on it all the way back months ago. So, yes, that is most consequential because it shows an observable of a UAP that is something that no human craft can and is able to do. >> To the doubters out there, how do you know that these video I mean, we now know the government has investigated this video is for real. They wouldn't be releasing it if they didn't think if they hadn't investigated and verified it. But how do you know even prior to a government release that the videos you're putting out are real? >> Yeah. So that's a lot of work working with sources over time vetting, verifying, and getting multi-source to understand. Look, beliefs are burdens, facts are foundations. As you can see, George and I have been bringing you the facts. This film Sleeping Dog exists because the government chose silence over transparency. So we've been provoking change altogether. Everybody's been provoking change. And this is real journalism at its best because we're not just reporting on power. We're moving power. If people keep the pressure on, the records will come out, more of them, and they will be shocking some of them. David Grush testified to bodies, nonhuman intelligence bodies. So, there's got to be autopsies. There's got to be photographs and footage. >> The Trump administration is saying that they're going to release UFO files every two weeks. The next dump would be then a week from this coming Friday. What do you think will be in the next batch? >> Well, I can tell you if they read if they watch Sleeping Dog, which they did, and they read the file sets that I showed in Sleeping Dog as I buried something and brought it up out of the desert, then they know about a hundred journalists have stuff they should release and they better get moving >> because otherwise journalists will just release it on their own. That's the duty of a journalist is to obtain and release stuff that is of public interest no matter who it helps or who it hurts. If the government's been lying to you and Trump has ordered this information to come out, then it should, don't you think? >> Yeah. Have you gotten any any uh grief any uh sort of because you've been releasing these on your own first? >> First of all, I'm protected under the First Amendment within journalism. So are you. So have I gotten grief? Well, sure, some underhanded stuff. If you watch the movie, you see I went through a very difficult time. My family doesn't love this. But at the same time, it's my duty and George Knap's duty to report what it is that these whistleblowers have told us and whistleblowers have done told you. So now it's time to catch up. >> You say that the communications uh department of the White House reached out to you. What did they want? >> Well, actually, I've been reached out to comm's departments from not just the Pentagon, not just the White House, not just all the different intelligence agencies. you can name. They were scrambling to figure out to be the smartest person in the room to find out if our president does make an announcement whatever he says they need to be ahead of as they say ahead of the eightball. Right. >> Right. So what are they asking specifically? >> They want to know how to transmit this information to the American public. The fundamentals we are not alone or whatever it might be. How do you describe? You have to define the terminology. You also have to say why you've kept this hidden for so many years. Who you've hurt to keep it hidden. Why would you hold this back? The nature of reality from humankind. Why would you do it? So the comm's people were trying to figure out how to look like heroes. >> I don't not sure I've heard any of them explain why they kept it hidden for so many years. Perhaps they're still working on that language. Uh Jeremy Corbel, always fascinating to talk to you. Really appreciate it. >> It's going to get exciting. Keep your eyes open. Pay attention. >> Oh yeah. Uh I think it's going to be quite the summer coming up. All right. Thanks, Jeremy. Thank you for watching. Subscribe below and download our NewsNation app right now on your phone and you will get fact-based, unbiased news for all Americans.