The Revelation and Beyond *Marathon* | Unidentified: Inside America's UFO Investigation

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Full auto-transcript: tonight on unidentified. >> We had been hearing rumors that there was a senior Navy official in the Italian government who may be interested in speaking with us. In Sicily, a craft appeared and it shoot. >> This is nuts. These are all their Tom. These are all their events. This is it. This is the briefing. >> This has just now crossed the line to a true national security threat. >> This is a worldwide phenomenon. >> Is it interdimensional? Is it from another planet? >> There's a whole fleet of them. My gosh. For 8 years, Lou Alzando ran a secret UFO investigation for the US military. But in 2017, he quit in protest. I put my entire future on the line because I believe in what I believe in. >> Now he's joined an elite group of former government insiders. Their mission, reveal what they say is the truth about UFOs. >> This is real and we're going to get to the bottom of it. >> For the past year, Alzando's investigation has produced shocking revelations from military eyewitnesses. That is something I have never seen. >> Two Navy fighter pilots told him they came face to face with a tic-tac-shaped UFO in 2004. >> High G, rapid velocity, rapid acceleration. You know, how can I possibly fight this? >> And a Navy radar operator said he tracked an entire fleet of the unidentified craft flying over the Pacific. >> I had these objects raining out of the sky. Choo choo. If these things are hostile, then we're screwed. But these stories were just the beginning. >> They're up there when we take off and then we land and my buddy that takes off an hour later seeing the same things. >> Lou Alzando discovered a different class of UFOs. >> There's a whole fleet of them. >> Allegedly stalked Navy fighter pilots off the east coast in 2015. >> It seemed like they were aware of our presence cuz they would actively move around us. >> And they even followed the pilots to the Middle East. We really have no idea what we're dealing with. >> But there's one thing his investigation has never found >> until now. Tell me about your journey and what it's been like so far since leaving the government. >> I don't know if it was a journey more or less than a an odyssey that hasn't finished yet. It was uh probably one of the most difficult decisions I ever made in my life with the ramifications that could be potentially disastrous. You know, it's not just me I got to worry about. I got to worry about my wife, my two daughters. I gave it all up to do what I thought was right. Half the people that I know think I'm crazy. The other half people I know don't understand. At the end of the day, I I hope that people a lot smarter than me will come out of the shadows and tell the government what they know. I did this because I needed our leadership in government to finally take notice. The only way I could fix the system was to fix it from the outside. Lu Alzando and his partner Tom Dong are on their way to Rome, Italy. When I was in the government, >> I just couldn't go to France or Italy and have a conversation about UFOs with their national defense apparatus. They've been invited to a private meeting with senior Italian military officials concerned about UFO encounters. He had been hearing for a while rumors that there was a potential attack on an Italian aircraft. This is the first time that myself, even being an ATIP, was ever aware of an actual hostile act. >> Italy is one of the few nations that openly investigates UFOs. When Tom and myself first came to Italy, it was made very clear to us that this is not an Italian phenomenon. It's not an American phenomenon. It is indeed a global phenomenon. We believe that investigating and communicating the subject can help pull people of all nations together. Every government want to keep extremely secret any information. >> Clar Bruno Veruchio is a scientist and was a commander in an elite unit of the Italian Navy for 15 years. He's been investigating unidentified craft with a team of researchers. So I know several information but my government don't want to know because if my government know they must do something. >> Absolutely. I would like to see what you have. That's what I'd like to see. >> If I tell you something that is restricted, you must give us something of restricted. >> Well, we are not Russian. We are we are brothers. You know you have to >> give me something of the same weight. >> I still have to be cognizant of the security clearance I hold. So please do not um confuse my speaking in generalities as trying to avoid a question. During our time in the ATIP program, we were focused on only two primary objectives. those two objectives, what is it and how does it work? We still don't know what they are, but we have a much better understanding now of how they work. >> We assembled more than 13,000 cases during the last 70 years and we have a database. >> The Italians have accumulated one of the world's largest collections of data on unidentified aerial phenomena or UAP. Unfortunately, if this is not shared with uh other people outside Italy, it's useless. >> There's one incident in particular the officials want to discuss. On 204 in Sicily, a craft appeared a few hundred of meters behind the copter tail and it shoot that destroyed helicopter wings. >> I can show you the photography photo. >> That's what I'd like to see. This was the only helicopter in the airspace on a secret mission to actually investigate the UAP phenomena off the coast of that island. And it gets zapped. And there's several pictures from different cameras on the island of the same helicopter and a UAP following it. In Sicily, a craft appeared a few hundred of meters behind the copter tail and it shoot a rail that destroyed helicopter wings. >> I can show you the photo. >> That's what I'd like to see. >> Claruno Vuchio was a commander in the Italian military's equivalent of the US Navy Seals. He's describing a harrowing 2004 encounter between one of his military helicopters and a UFO. >> We can't use missiles against this device. So, you know, we can't launch missile or the missile will be sent back. >> So, this was deliberate. You believe that it was a deliberate >> in 2004. A series of spontaneous fires broke out across northern Sicily, destroying homes and forcing evacuations. The Italian military sent a helicopter to investigate. Officials say the copter was chased by a saucer-shaped UFO that shot a powerful electromagnetic beam at its rotor. The helicopter was severely damaged but able to land. The incident was photographed by a local resident. Locals had also reported seeing mysterious lights over the sea. For months, the military investigators were baffled, but they were able to piece together a few key details. >> This signal was absolutely directional. It was a beam. They must go outside the stealth mode with the plated Iranian weapons. And now what you say to me. >> Militaries around the world have electromagnetic pulse weapons that produce quick bursts of energy that can destroy electrical systems. But the Italians claimed the pulse fired in the attack on their helicopter destroyed its rotor. No known military has that capability. >> They were very pointed in matter of fact that that these things had been kind of plaguing them for some time. One individual in particular provided some very very detailed information to include uh some analysis on frequency. I hate to say it but they may have more information than we do even in the US potentially. >> The Italians say the spontaneous fires in northern Sicily were also caused by an electromagnetic beam which they say came from the ocean. So the target was found at a distance of around 80 kilometers and the source was in the open sea. >> Do we have an altitude? >> It's not >> because it was in the bottom of the sea. >> Alzando has heard reports of UFOs in the ocean before. >> We all very quickly realized that there was something in the water. >> In the water. Yeah. You could use the same frequency to provide a radio beacon to call them >> first to attract them >> to show them that we have understood >> their technology >> communication. This was next level. One of our international friends may have even figured out a way to communicate. >> We didn't get that far in a tip. That's for damn sure. I can't answer that question. >> Of course, it's quiteified. I cannot speak on behalf of uh if if other efforts um had existed within the US government in Russia and now even in China. There is the tendency to organize at a government level in order to study such phenomena and to find results from these studies. You are aware of this? >> I am. >> Okay. I I think we're all in the same boat. So, uh my my hope is with the help of of you all and and everybody else, we can move this topic forward. Um this affects humanity. This doesn't affect just one country. >> And so the question is in which way our association can help you. >> Thank you. As the meeting winds down, Alzando Dong and the Italian officials agree to form a global partnership. If their governments won't take the threat seriously, they'll work together outside the system. >> The last moment of the last hour of our engagement with the Italian government, we were afforded a thumb drive. A thumb drive that has a tremendous amount of data on it about UAPs and here particularly in Italy. These are all their Tom. >> Yeah, >> these are all their events. >> I've got the whole thing here. These are all the all the events since 1901 here in Italy. All the reports, >> the entire spreadsheet, the lat longs and everything. >> Oh, look at these. Look at these historical ones. This is nuts. Look, we got some analysis. Oh man, this is the incident that happened down in Sicily. There it is. Look at that. That is incredible. This is it. And this is where they have the helicopter. Son of a This is the briefing. There it is. Right behind it, right? And then when you come over here, this is the actual top secret investigation they did. Here's the rotors. And here's a closeup. Had any foreign adversary attacked a military helicopter of another nation, that could be a sign of aggression for sure and maybe even potentially an act of war. So that's a big deal. It is incumbent upon any government to protect its people. And if there's any military aircraft that is interfered with, that could be a sign of vulnerabilities and that's a huge issue. >> Hey. Hey, Steve. >> Lu Alzando is back from Italy. He's meeting up with his partner, Steve Justice. Justice is the former director of advanced systems for Loheed Martin's legendary skunk works division. >> Here's the bottom line. There's three options. It's a foreign technology. The second option is it's our technology. Something that we have managed to keep under wraps for a super long time. The third option is that this is this is something else. Where does that leave us? Over the past year, Alzando and Justice have met to explore possible explanations for the incredible accounts of US military encounters with UFOs. >> They discussed whether UFOs could actually be top secret American military test aircraft. And the pilots they interviewed were merely unwitting test subjects. I can't completely eliminate the fact that you know those type of velocities potentially potentially are achievable with certain technologies we have. >> It's possible it could be because you know it it was an operational test. You know not everybody gets to know everything. >> They also considered whether these UFOs could be advanced aircraft from a foreign adversary. a foreign adversary, they would have to send in something that's super sophisticated and fast that can get in, look at what it is we're doing, and then get back out, right? >> My greatest fear is that an adversary did figure it out, and we are just way, way, way, way, way behind. >> The third and most controversial theory is that these unidentified craft are not of this world. These things that we're seeing, they don't have wings, they don't have tails, they don't really have any cockpits that we can see. They don't have anything that we would normally associate with the traditional aircraft, >> right? We can create systems that do pieces of each of these and not a single system that does all of these. Precisely. When we were at ATIP, we had some really smart people. These were scientists, academics who had put a lot of time and effort into trying to figure out the physics of this. We were looking at what are these things and what will it take to explain them and then to exploit them and be able to build them. >> Although we were focused on the nuts and bolts, we were trying to look at all potential possibilities and options of what this could be. Part of that was a commissioning of several studies that has now become quite public. um 37 studies, >> right? >> This declassified list of studies, Alzando's secret UFO program commissioned, was released to the public in 2019, thanks to the efforts of the late Senator John McCain. I'm going to pull up real quick here the the uh this is a letter. >> Oh, this is the McCain. >> Yeah. So, I think it's it's important we put this into context. This is the response by DIA to the late Senator John McCain. Senator McCain has been there, done that, fought for this country. For him to take the time um to do this. I think it's very telling. >> And at this point in time, he knew what his fate was as well. And so it was clear he wanted to accomplish some things. In July 2018, Senator McCain sent a request to the Defense Intelligence Agency for all non-classified documents from Alzando's secret program to be released to the public. >> Now that the list of studies has been released uh by the US government, we really weren't looking at aircraft 40 years in the future. We were looking at a paradigm changing technology to try to help explain the phenomenon. >> Correct. The biggest obstacle these things have to overcome is a lot of these were typically classified as pseudocience. >> Right? >> The studies explored complex theoretical topics like invisibility, wormholes, and anti-gravity, subjects many believe to be science fiction. >> This technology is for all intents and purposes magic. So, you know, we we would like to get it. Whoever cracks the code and figures this stuff out first would have a tremendous advantage over our other adversaries. What will your feelings be if it turns out that it is not a foreign technology capability and is not a US capability? Then what? >> Then it's something else because it's hard to say it's not there. The studies examined cuttingedge theories, but they did not address the question that has shadowed the UFO community for decades. the possibility that intelligent life from another solar system has arrived on Earth. The question has been debated for decades with no hard proof. >> The question of whether or not there's extraterrestrial life is certainly a scientific question that deserves investigation. >> Matthew Cleban is a leading theoretical physicist at New York University. We now know that our own galaxy contains of order 100 billion stars and there are of order 10 or 100 billion other galaxies that we can observe within the observable part of our universe. So you multiply those two numbers together and it's a staggeringly huge figure. With the help of deep space telescopes, astrophysicists estimate that not only do billions of solar systems exist in our observable universe, up to one in four contain a planet that could sustain life. It would be naive to think that, you know, we we could be the only ones out there. And I get that. What I'm what I'm always fearful of is in people focusing in on aliens. Now, you start going down the the roads of, you know, is it is it from another planet? Is it interdimensional? You know, is it spiritual? What is those things? And and it it opens up so many cans of worms that I just I just don't allow myself to go down that path. >> I mean, I think it's disingenuous to say it's not an option. It's so unknown that we really have no idea what we're dealing with. >> Busy morning so far. Lots going on actually. Um, lots of phone calls and emails on our favorite subject. So things are hopping and uh very uh very much looking forward to seeing the senator. Former Deputy Assistant Secretary of Defense for Intelligence Chris Melon is on his way to meet with a powerful ally in his mission to get the government to take the UFO threat seriously. Former Senate Majority Leader, Harry Reid. Harry Reid was convinced by doing his own research that this was something as an elected official he should probably care about and he clearly convinced some of his colleagues in the Senate that it was important enough to look into and that's how this Pentagon program got started in the first place. >> Senator Reid was the driving force behind the creation of the Pentagon secret UFO unit known as ATIP. Reed retired from the Senate in 2017, but he's still working behind the scenes to push the US government to study what he believes is a clear and present danger to national security. There's a lot of very profound, very deep issues that an individual like Harry Reid is acutely aware of that he's been deeply involved with. And for him to devote time to this issue in the twilight of his career, um, you know, it's fascinating. We've been in a quandry. We have these very very proficient, best trained pilots in the world and they see these strange occurrences and in the past they've been afraid to say anything to anyone for fear they would be looked at as a little strange, a little weird. So for decades nothing has been done about these instances. What I wanted to do today uh initially is provide an update. >> Melon wants Reed to know about the increasingly dangerous military encounters with UFOs his team has uncovered. >> Look at this thing. It's rotating. We've learned that uh beginning in 2015, there were scores of encounters off the east coast of the United States between US naval fighters and unidentified flying objects of different kinds. And this was within minutes of a flying distance from the nation's capital. This is still unresolved and this is still continuing. and active duty pilots have approached us and shared these stories with us. >> Wherever we were, they were there. So that could mean two things. That could mean they were already there or they were following the strike group. >> One of the extraordinary things we learned from these pilots is that when their carrier battle group deployed across the Atlantic, they continued to encounter these things all the way across the Atlantic into the Middle East and even over Syria. We hear so much about the off the coast of Florida and especially Virginia. People think that's the only place these unusual things happen. It's not true. It's all over the world where we have battle groups. So, this isn't anything that just is limited to the United States. It's a worldwide phenomenon. >> But we're finding in in both these legislative and executive branch this this still lingering concern about a stigma. >> But I never hid from it. I acknowledge it. I thought it was an important thing for our country and I think people who run from this are absolutely wrong. >> Senator Reid secured funding for the Pentagon secret UFO program in part because he and others had come to believe America's adversaries were gaining the advantage. >> Since I got interested in this has been KGB Putin. He was head of the KGB and I guarantee you >> that he's got a lot of information on this and I would bet that Russia is ahead of us in looking into this scientifically. >> Yes, sir. And we we absolutely share your concern and one of the things that is very frustrating to me as a former Defense Department official myself. It's not even being examined. It's sitting on computer servers. >> You know why they're not looking at it? They don't want to. It's another issue that they're trying to ignore. And that's what's happened over the years. And that's too bad. We now have the technology. What else is going on in space that we're that information is coming in. It's all stored someplace in a computer bank and it could be pulled up. >> We're in an environment right now where there's sort of unprecedented distrust of our government. Do you have any reason to believe that there is a government cover up of UFOs that that behind the scenes the government actually really does know the answers and has >> I I think the government doesn't know the answers but over the decades rather than try to find the answers they've tried to cover up what the answers might be. In an effort to find answers, Reed brought in aerospace entrepreneur Bob Bigalow. >> And Bob Bigalow has, you know, been very open about his views that he believes there are, you know, intelligent beings from some other place that have visited here. >> Bigalow is one of the few high-profile people involved in the Pentagon secret program to say he believes the unidentified craft are from another world. Bob Bigalow recently said on national TV that he absolutely believes not only that alien life exists but that aliens are here that aliens are visiting Earth. Do you share that view? >> I feel it would be uh from a congressional standpoint it would affect my credibility if I started talking about u everything I know. Okay. So, it's a huge week for us. This is a really big moment. So, talk to me a little bit about uh today and the people we're meeting. >> I'll be introducing you to an individual that worked with me when I was with >> Lou Alzando and Tom Dong are in Washington DC for a series of secret meetings with government officials. The reason for this meeting is to basically deconlict and coordinate where are some of the areas that we can continue help you know inform and and push the cause and they are going to also let us know what they're doing on their end. Uh we want to make sure we don't step on each other's toes and we can help each other out. Since he left the Pentagon, Alzando has been working to convince the military to create a formal process for pilots and others to report their encounters with UFOs. Just a year ago, if I wanted to have a conversation in the halls of the Pentagon about this, I had to go into a vault that was located inside a skiff. I had to shut the door, turn on noise makers, and then I had to whisper in a very quiet voice because of the nature and the sensitivity and the stigma that was associated with this portfolio. And I think that's important because I think the conversation about this requires transparency, requires collaboration, and and it requires honesty. When you come across a game-changing technology, it's very very important that you report that up through through the chain of command. >> The Department of Defense says Alzando's secret UFO program officially shut down in 2012, but Alzando says the investigation continues. In the DoD, there's two things that occur whenever you have an organization. There's paperwork when you start a program, and there's paperwork when you end a program. You won't find any paperwork that ended at. >> Over the past year, he's been communicating behind the scenes with a new team of Pentagon intelligence officers who are studying UFOs. ATIP is no longer run by a single office. There's now several offices that are engaged in this effort. We meet with people regularly involved in this effort. And I that's about all I can say. >> Let's roll. Alzando and Dong head to a meeting with three military intelligence officers. These are individuals that have to remain very very much protected. There are extremely qualified people whom I trust, whom I personally know that are still running this effort and it is being run with official blessing. And that is what I'm prepared to say. I cannot go into any more than that. The meeting lasts for over an hour. >> Right before the meeting concluded, I was pulled aside and and shared some private information that uh there is still some degree of animosity regarding my departure. I didn't ask for this portfolio. It was it was given to me and I committed myself to it from day one. You know, you're given a mission that you believe in, and your job is to finish that mission. Since he went public, Alzando has been able to bring military eyewitnesses out of the shadows and on the record. >> We finally have people having conversations about this enigma. When I get called to go to the Pentagon and provide a now serious debrief, um it's a little surreal. >> People have testified before Congress. These are active duty military personnel. >> Other people have had this issue as well. So, it's not a one-off with me. >> They have informed Congress. We had the executive department engaged. So far, this group of individuals have made more progress in getting this issue into the mainstream and taken seriously than anybody has in a very, very long time, if ever. There's a growing awareness in Congress about this. But I don't anticipate that anytime soon we're going to have UFO hearings on Capitol Hill. It really goes against my DNA um to have gone quote unquote public with this. Do I think it was the right decision? I think it was the only decision because otherwise uh we'd still be where we were a year ago, which is nowhere. >> Something unexplained is happening in the skies above the United States. Even the US Navy isn't certain what is going on. In April 2019, the US Navy made an unprecedented announcement. It's creating a new protocol for pilots to report UFO sightings. For Chris Melon, the announcement is a major victory. >> Chris Melon is a former Pentagon intelligence official. >> Chris, thanks very much for coming on. >> Thank you, Tucker. It's an extraordinary turnaround and it's really the result of an interaction between Congress and the Navy and the fact that this has uh gotten on on Congress's radar began some discussions which elevated an issue that before this time had been smothered and kept at low levels of the bureaucracy. >> This is probably single-handedly one of the greatest things that the Navy could do for this country. For Lu Alzando, the new Navy policy is confirmation of everything he's worked for over the past year. It's also an admission the UFO phenomenon is real and needs to be studied. They're writing policy that rather than keeping people quiet will will encourage people to come forward. Keep in mind that the topic of UAPs just a year and a half ago, people were snickering and laughing, right? That was relegated to to be Hollywood movies and and cheap TV shows. And now people are having a real conversation. >> The Navy's new UFO policy was first reported by Politico's Brian Bender. >> Lou Alzando, Chris Melon, and others have have come forward to try and get the Pentagon leadership to do more about this to apply real resources to try and figure out is it real, is it an adversary, is it something else. Where that will lead I think remains to be seen. Hello there. >> Hi to J. How are you? >> Fine. >> Hate to break up the party, but uh Tom, normally I wouldn't do this, but if you got a couple minutes, I need to give you a quick update on a uh recent development. >> Let's do it. >> So, Tom, this um this just hit the wire. This is a political article. Um, the title is US Navy drafting new guidelines for reporting UFOs. Um, >> that's >> Can you read the subtitle? >> That's insane. >> The fact that they're coming out now and they're saying that this is real and there's incurs uh incursions over our sensitive sites. We're putting together a national security policy to track them. It's like insane >> to report them. So, you're up. I think we can break it down to three things. >> My heart's like beating fast. Insane to me. It's like crazy. I'm pretty energized. >> There's three pieces to this article that I find most captivating. A that the Navy is taking this seriously. B it's establishing an official reporting mechanism. And C uh that they have been talking with members of Congress and and their staff. Um it not only vindicates a lot of the hard work that's been going on behind the scenes, um but also I think it's a testament to the brave men and women uh in in the US Navy who who want to figure out what these things are. I mean, Tom, this is this has been the culmination of all my personally all my effort. You know, I never did this for fame or status or damn sure not a paycheck. I'm doing this because I was trying to fix a broken system, right? And as I've told people before, the only thing I managed to accomplish in my entire new career moving forward is getting a reporting mechanism established so people can report these things without fear of any type of retribution or any type of consequences professionally, losing their security clearance or losing their flight status, right? All the things that that were were were bottlenecking me before from having reports come out. That is the only thing I ever truly that was mission success for me. And here we are literally a year and a half later of you coming on stage and telling the world you're going to do this. It happened. >> It's absolutely wild. >> Exciting stuff for me. The Air Force interest in this problem has been due to our feeling of an obligation to identify and analyze to the best of our ability anything in the air that may have the possibility of threat or menace to the United States. >> At this point, these things are coming up close and personal. We are being forced to address it. We don't have the luxury to sit back anymore as a country and say let's not pay attention to that. We have to pay attention to it because now it appears to be stalking some of our DoD assets at base. These are reports from pilots from military pilots in the Navy today or very recently in the Navy that have seen these phenomenon and reported them. >> I was a witness to something. It's something that I happened to to encounter. I don't know what it was. People ask me, "What do you think it was? Uh, do you think it was of this earth? Do you think it was aliens?" If these things are out there, and we know they're out there, there's there's enough credible that says there's things that we don't understand. I can tell you that the other people that were involved all feel the same way. Not everyone is talking. Some of them are still on active duty, but we all would we would love to know what it is. I mean, I want to I would love to fly it. >> This is the story of the millennia. This is changing the world stuff. This really is in my heart like I am a part of something. I created something that has an opportunity to change the world and I really feel that that is why I'm doing this. For the first time in the history of our country and in the history of the subject, the stigma and the taboo nature about it just got shattered to a thousand pieces in the wind. We have an intelligence collection apparatus that is global in nature and exquisite from 22,500 m above the Earth's surface to virtually the deepest levels of the ocean that may already have answers to many of the questions that we have. My hope is that members of Congress will simply ask the right questions. They have an opportunity when this information is provided to them to respond to it and act on it. I occasionally think how quickly our differences worldwide would vanish if we were facing an alien threat from outside this world. >> The day will come when this occurs to you that it's real, that there's some other intelligence here, that it's far more advanced than us, that it could do whatever it wants to us and we'd be powerless against it. at the end of the day. I don't care if you believe it. I know what I've seen. This stands as a reminder for everything that we do and how important it is. The job of every every man and woman and civilian, sailor, soldier, airman in the military. We do what we do because of this and this is a reminder of that sacrifice. >> I am extremely optimistic that in a very short period of time we're going to finally have answers and resolution to some longstanding questions. We have access to people, to efforts like never before, >> to places we could never go before. Maybe we can even build some things. I think we're going to have new events that America has never been made aware of. We're going to build this case so airtight that not only is it a beyond reasonable doubt situation. It will be irrefutable. I think we're upon a precipice. I think the time has finally come. And one last question. Do you think the public can handle the truth? tonight on unidentified. >> They all changed position and then they were gone. >> And as soon as I turned the lights, she was straight to me. When you look at the data, the Nimitch was not an isolated event. >> I know what I saw. Even if I don't know what it is, I know I saw it. >> Do you know what it's like to serve your country? Only to have someone come out and say, "You're crazy." >> The Pentagon has confirmed the existence of the Advanced Aerospace Threat Identification Program that studied UFOs. And they released video. >> There's a whole fleet of them. My gosh. For 8 years, Lou Alzando ran a secret UFO program for the US military. But in 2017, he quit in protest. >> I put my entire future on the line because I believe in what I believe in. >> Now he's joined an elite group of former government insiders. Their mission, reveal what they say is the truth about UFOs. >> US airspace is being violated by vehicles of unknown origin with advanced capabilities. >> This is real and we're going to get to the bottom of it. I I've seen too much. I've talked to too many people. I can't a good conscious just keep my head buried in the sand. So while investigating the limits incident, we came across some information that leads us to believe that there may be a particular area rally point so to speak where some of these things are going. That's a big deal. At a minimum, we need to get down to that site and we need to figure out what's going on. Lou Alzando is following an extraordinary break in his investigation into a major military UFO sighting off the west coast. In the fall of 2004, two F-18 pilots from the USS Nimmits told Alzando they came face to face with a bizarre tic-tac-shaped object. >> High G, rapid velocity, rapid acceleration. >> We go, wa, we don't have that, you know, and I'm talking we're flying one of the premier airplanes on the planet. But the incident wasn't an isolated event. A Navy technician revealed the craft allegedly traveled underwater at nearly two times the speed of the fastest US submarine. >> According to one of the sonar guys, they were going 70 plus knots under the water. >> And another Navy radar specialist says he had tracked as many as 100 of the strange craft for days. >> They fell off my radar envelope down off the coast of Baja California. >> Okay, >> these things were going somewhere. I could tell you the Latin long. >> We now have a very good lead on a potential hotspot. What does that mean? I don't know. What does it mean? Are these things? Can you see them all the time flying around out there? Is it underwater? What about the locals? These are all other things now that we can use to help us start collecting additional data points and putting the pieces of the puzzle together. >> Hey, how are you, brother? >> I'm good. How you doing? Good man. I'm pulling right up. >> Joining Alzando is a new member of the investigation who himself was a witness to the strange events of November 2004. >> Different people have different motivations for for coming forward. These are soldiers or sailors who've been involved in something extraordinary. They're not quite sure what to make of it, but they want the truth to come out. >> How are you, my friend? >> Very good. >> How things going? >> They're outstanding today. >> Shawn Cahill served 20 years in the Navy. He was the top security officer on the USS Princeton, a missile cruiser in the USS Nimit's carrier strike group. Cahill was responsible for law and order aboard the ship and running counterterrorism patrols at sea. >> Tell me when this event began for you. >> We were told Nits has got something going on. They've got something in their airspace. >> Cahill is the fifth Navy witness to come forward. This is the first time he has spoken publicly about the events. We're getting calls up on the bridge to run out on the bridge wing and let us know if you see anything. And they'd give us an angle and they say, "Do you see anything out there?" And a few times we even turn the ship and I recall saying, "What are we looking for?" And I think that they were saying the Nimits has got some some strange contacts. They obviously had something on radar. They wanted us to see if we could put eyes on it. They didn't tell us what we were looking for. We went out on the um the bridge wing and me and one of my lookouts were scanning the sky. What Cahill witnessed has haunted him for 15 years. >> So, we were both looking up ahead about 45° angle and there was a constellation of lights up there. >> Let me get this straight. You're looking up and you see these pattern of lights. They all changed position. Some moving inward towards the center, some moving outward, but all rotating. As it rotated, some of the lights disappeared and then they were gone. I didn't see a trail. I didn't see any effect. It was just there was a light there and then there was no longer light there. But the night was clear. This was not stars being oluded by clouds. >> That was when I got I as I get the goosebumps right now, I got really interested in what was going on. What the hell is this? >> Cahill is the first eyewitness to describe this abrupt and extraordinary movement of multiple craft. If Princeton had it on the radar, why isn't this on the news every night that something we don't understand is present in our atmosphere coming and going as it pleases with absolute impunity over our military. Cahill's account bolsters the testimony of his shipmate Kevin Day. >> The the next morning I went and checked my email and I had a video from the Black Asian squadron. The following morning at breakfast, I talked to Kevin Day and another chief petty officer who's a radar operator. And I said to them, "What was going on last night?" And the chief grunted at me, "Go look at your email." I go in the back and I log on and there's the video. The next morning, Kahill and Day watched a longer version of this video captured by an F-18's camera. It's the same video that wouldn't be seen again until more than a decade later when Alzando helped get it released to the public in 2017. >> Every night we would have an operations intelligence briefing. >> So I kind of smirk and I walk in because I'm like, "Wow, maybe we're going to hear something. Maybe we're going to find out what was going on." Now, as they start the briefing, the young officer in charge gave the little nod to the person running the computer, you know, next slide. And as they hit the space bar, a a caricature of a of a flying saucer with a little green alien moves across the screen. The room erupts in laughter and that was it. The captain said, "Well, we all we had a little bit of fun. I guess you guys were chasing something around, but that's over now. Let's get on with the briefing." >> I'm an intel guy. It's not uncommon that if you have a person in a particular position of trust uh and you want to keep them quiet, that ridicule can be used as some sort of leverage. >> Nobody raised an eyebrow and it didn't seem like anybody cared. >> We weren't even told not to talk about it. And that was one of the things that that struck me as being um how do I put it? They delegitimize the experience. And I got to a point where I pretended like it didn't happen to be honest with you. >> Someone tells you something you encountered is n